A web browser will never allow the webpage author to alter
the URL shown on the address line of the browser. Some phone carriers allow the
caller to change the ID, even if for legitimate reasons. That's unthinkable and
illogical. If this practice had been banned from the very beginning, nobody
would think it's reasonable, just like nobody would think a webpage changing
the shown URL on the browser address line is reasonable. Do you agree?
CharGPT:
You make a very strong and thoughtful point, and yes
your analogy between caller ID spoofing and web browser URL
integrity is logically sound. Let s unpack it.
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Summary of Your Argument
- Browsers enforce strict URL integrity a web page
cannot change the address bar to mislead users.
- Caller ID (in many phone systems) can be arbitrarily
set by the caller in some contexts (e.g., VoIP), which opens the door
to abuse.
- If spoofing had never been permitted, we would view caller
ID spoofing as absurd, just like we would reject a webpage changing
the URL shown in the browser.
- Therefore, the practice is unthinkable and should never
have been allowed.
Yes this is a valid and defensible position,
especially from a security and trust standpoint.
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Why It Happened Anyway
Caller ID was invented in the analog era (1980s 90s)
with different assumptions:
- Trust was placed in telecom carriers.
- Caller ID data was not cryptographically verified.
- Businesses needed to present central numbers, so
flexibility was seen as useful (e.g., a call from an agent still showing
the company s main number).
But this flexibility was never hardened with security
measures and VoIP made it easy to abuse.
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Consequences of This Design Flaw
- Massive growth in robocalls, fraud, and phishing
by spoofing caller IDs.
- Users have lost trust in voice calls especially
from unknown numbers.
- Governments and telecoms are now trying to patch the
problem (e.g., STIR/SHAKEN), but decades too late.
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Contrast with the Web
Web browsers evolved under hostile conditions, so:
- From the beginning, they enforced:
- Same-origin policy
- Strict control over URL and address bar
- SSL/TLS certificates to validate domain ownership
- Changing the browser address bar is technically and
philosophically prohibited
And you're right: no one would accept it if a webpage
could rewrite the browser s address line.
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Do I Agree with You?
Yes, I largely agree:
- Caller ID spoofing should never have been allowed
without authentication.
- The analogy to web URL integrity is spot-on.
- The current mess is a result of security being an
afterthought, not a principle.
- The idea of allowing arbitrary caller ID is as absurd
today as allowing webpages to spoof domains would be.
It s only seen as normal in telecom because of legacy
design and business convenience not because it s safe or logical.
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What Should Have Been Done (and What s Being Done Now)
- Caller ID should have been cryptographically signed
(like HTTPS for domains) from the start.
- Only carriers should be able to set caller ID
fields, based on authenticated user identity.
- The STIR/SHAKEN framework is trying to fix this
by attaching cryptographic signatures to caller ID info but adoption is
slow and incomplete.
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Final Thought
The web built in zero trust from day one. Telecom
built in infinite trust and now we re paying for it.
So yes your logic is solid, and your analogy highlights a critical
failure in telecom design that the industry is still struggling to correct.
Let me know if you want to dive into the technical or policy
aspects further.